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Is LSU Basketball a Pretender or Contender?

Jan 10, 2009

The LSU basketball season has shown that LSU can play this year. Many believe that LSU can't win away from home because they play good teams. LSU has had to play Texas A&M in Houston, which was somewhat like a home game, and played Utah in Salt Lake City. Now why would I say that LSU is actually good? Well, there is a very good reason for that.

Against Texas A&M, LSU kept the game close for most of the game, but a questionable foul called against Marcus Thornton, which could have gone either way, just about killed LSU's chances of winning because he made the lay-up but was called for a charge. If the referees would have called a block, maybe LSU would have been able to win, but it happens. LSU could get a lot of good from that game.

Against Utah, LSU's defense was just exploited the whole time. Utah's Luke Nevill was able to drop 23 points on the combined defensive efforts from Chris Johnson, Quinton Thornton, Storm Warren, and a little bit from Tasmin Mitchell. On that night, when LSU lost 91-61, not many shots were falling for LSU.

LSU's starters didn't do as well as they needed to. First, Garrett Temple had zero points, Bo Spencer had five points, Chris Johnson had 13 points, Tasmin Mitchell had 14 points, and Marcus Thornton had 16 points. LSU was just 4-11 from long range and 20-60 from the field. LSU's bench only contributed 10 points, which won't help LSU win if only the starters are putting up numbers.

Second, LSU was outrebounded 37-29, which is very unusual for LSU. Utah just took advantage of Chris' size and exploited it to perfection; Nevill shooting 11-13 helped Utah to pull away from LSU in the second half. Also, this isn't one of the teams that LSU would usually play, but if the two teams meet next year, LSU will want some revenge for this defeat.

Now, just look at what LSU has been able to do at home. They have been able to take care of most of their in-state rivals. LSU was also able to beat a good Washington State team, who try to win basically on the defensive side. LSU was able to end the game on a 24-5 run after being down by seven with nine minutes to go.

LSU's new coach, Trent Johnson, has been able to turn around a team who would struggle against teams like Southeastern and Troy to a team that now has a shot at winning the SEC. The team is led by the senior leadership of Garrett Temple, who is one of the best defenders on the team. I believe that LSU can go far unless injuries begin take a toll on LSU, which I believe won't be a problem.

LSU Looks to Continue New Tradition Going into SEC Play

Jan 5, 2009

An LSU team is 12-1 in January, and guess what—it's not the football team. The basketball team has managed to go through the non-conference schedule having only lost one time, in Houston against a very talented Texas A&M ball club.

Of course, this record must be taken with a grain of salt since many of the wins are against teams like Jackson State, Troy, Northwestern State, and McNeese State. However, they did have a very impressive 12-point win on national TV against Washington State.

The going gets tougher from here on out for the Tigers. After they travel to the west to take on Utah on Jan. 6, the Bayou Bengals begin SEC play when they take on the Alabama Crimson Tide.

The upcoming schedule is going to be a tough one for the Tigers, who have looked very impressive in the early going, as they play games like Xavier, Florida, @ Tenn, @ Kentucky, @ Georgia, and Vanderbilt.

These key games should give a better look at how good the Tigers are actually going to be this season, but there are many things that have gone right for LSU in the early going.

Garrett Temple has been phenomenal on the defensive side, holding some opponents' best players in check for almost the entire game, including a stellar performance where he held Southeastern Louisiana's best scoring threat Kevyn Greene to only six points for the game.

Marcus Thornton has to be one of the most under the radar players in the country. He is averaging 18.5 points per game, and yet no one outside of the SEC knows who he is. He had a 32 and a 33-point game this season and is LSU's go-to guy in the clutch when they need a bucket.

By far the biggest surprise of the 2008-09 season has been Bo Spencer. The point guard has averaged double-digit points for the Tigers so far this season and is something that LSU has not seen in a long time: a guard who can run the offense and plays under control (remember the days of Tack Minor?). The Tiger offense is led by Bo, and he has become a force to be reckoned with on the scoreboard.

Finally, some of the credit has to go to Trent Johnson, who in less than a year has turned this team around. He has them moving around on offense and using their offensive sets more wisely. He could be the coach to bring the passion and enthusiasm back into LSU basketball. This has turned out to be a great hire for the LSU basketball team.

What does the rest of the season hold in store for the Tigers? Only time will tell, but one thing is for sure: If LSU can continue to play the way they have over the past two months, they will be a force to be reckoned with when the NCAA tournament rolls around in March.

Washington State-LSU: WSU Fades Down the Stretch

Dec 27, 2008

Washington State came within three minutes of making a statement to the Pac-10 and NCAA tournament committee.  Instead, the young guns showed their inexperience, falling to the LSU Tigers 64-52 in Baton Rouge.

This game was a match-up that wouldn't attract a large viewing audience for ESPN. Both teams play strong defense and are comfortable playing deliberate offense.

However, there's deliberate, and then there's the style of play Coach Tony Bennett likes. By dictating tempo, "Bennett Ball" limits the number of possessions an opponent gets in a game.

For the first 37 minutes of this game, it was all about "Bennett Ball."

Despite senior Aron Baynes picking up his second foul early in the first half, banishing him to the bench, WSU trailed by just two at the half, 25-23.

The Cougars out-rebounded the top rebounding team in the nation over the first twenty minutes, 20-18. 

That was surprising, but the real surprise was the eight offensive rebounds WSU pulled down in the first half, because typically they only design one player to crash the boards.

WSU needed every one of those offensive rebounds to stay with LSU, as the Cougars only managed one assist.  

There were numerous lead changes in the first half before LSU tied the game at 15-15.

This was destined to be a game where coaching made the difference.

Coach Trent Johnson is in his first year at LSU, and is still trying to get this team to buy into his system.  

After seeing how this game played out, his Tigers should be believers.

Last year, Coach Johnson was Coach of the Year in the Pac-10, leading Stanford to a second-place finish.  Coming into this game, he was more than familiar with what it takes to prepare a team to face Washington State.  Coach Johnson's teams won the last three match-ups against Coach Bennett.

The second half was quite different from the opening half for both teams. 

WSU came out running their offense to perfection, making just about every shot that was called for.  They maintained a slow tempo of play while running off a nice 9-0 stretch that put them up 41-35 with about 12 minutes of regulation play left.

When the Cougars extended their lead to 7 at 47-40, it looked as though they would return home with a win.

The coaching came into play at that point.

Coach Johnson freed his players up to take the outside shots "Bennett Ball" was offering them and that turned out to be the key to the game.

By showing confidence in his players' shooting abilities, Johnson gave them the push to play with tremendous intensity and confidence at both ends of the court.

Cougar momentum and confidence left the building when Tiger players started swishing outside shots.  LSU put together a very nice 11-2 run of their own, and were positioned to grind out the final precious possessions.

Coach Bennett implored his team to feed the big guy in the middle, Aron Baynes, as LSU didn't have anyone who could defend him one-on-one.

Coach Johnson answered that coaching maneuver with one of his own.

LSU double-teamed Baynes every time he touched the ball, and forced any other WSU player to make a shot.

That's also where inexperience reared its ugly head for the Cougars.

With only one timeout left for WSU at the 2:38 mark, Coach Bennett was forced to let his players execute.  

Not only did WSU have trouble getting the ball into Baynes the rest of the game, LSU forced a handful of turnovers in the process.  The Tigers outscored the Cougars 11-2—their second such run—over the final four minutes of play.  

WSU, flat out, didn't execute.

Not only did the game mark the fourth consecutive time a Coach Johnson team defeated a Coach Bennett team, they also looked impressive in the process.  As the Tigers roll into SEC play, it's clear they will be a force to be reckoned with.

Though the Cougars fell to 8-4 on the season, they are certainly aren't limping into Pac-10 play. All four of their losses are to teams appearing to be bound for NCAA tournament play in March.  

The young guns of Wazzou have gained valuable experience.  

When Baynes went to the bench early in the first half, DeAngelo Casto played valuable minutes. He never got off the pine in the second half though. The same should be pointed out for Marcus Capers.  

That's probably an indication of what to expect in terms of Coach Bennett's rotation early in the Pac-10.

For the record, freshman Klay Thompson played solid once again, scoring 12 points.  He followed senior Taylor Rochestie who led the Cougs with 14, but that was on 5-15 shooting.  Klay earned his 12 with just 11 shots. That's the level of efficiency you'd expect from a seasoned player.  Clearly their performance doesn't follow the traditional pattern of play.

The senior who played like one was Caleb Forrest.  Forrest's gangly play kept the Cougars in the game in the first half, and was solid over the final 20 minutes. He contributed 10 points of offense, blocked a shot, and seemed to be pulling down rebounds everywhere.

Coach Bennett now has a week to prepare his team for the conference opener next Saturday against Washington.  Not only does he have a pretty good idea about the team strengths and weaknesses, players are beginning to know what they can do during a game.

Washington State needs some tweaking.  Coach Bennett and his staff will get that done.

The Cougars will be ready for conference play.

Seriously.

College Basketball and PBA 12/24/08 News & Notes

Dec 24, 2008

12/22/08

Marquette (Scott Monarch) (10-2) vs. N.C. State

Dominic James’ three-pointer with 0.4 seconds remaining lifted Marquette (No. 25 ESPN/USA Today) past North Carolina State 68-65 on Monday night. Jerel McNeal scored 20 points and James added 18 for the Golden Eagles (10-2).

NCCU (Henry Dickerson) (0-14) vs. Duquesne

Duquesne defeated winless North Carolina Central 97-79 on Monday night. Jamar Briscoe, also a freshman guard, was 15-of-18 from the foul line while scoring a game-high 34 points for North Carolina Central. The Eagles have played only two home games while going 0-14.

Savannah State (Horace Broadnax) (7-5) vs. Notre Dame

No. 8 ranked Notre Dame got a 81-49 win over Savannah State on Monday night. The Irish rebounded in the second half, shooting 14-of-21, as they pulled away for most of the game. Broadnax was called for a technical in the first half because he was unhappy with the officiating, with the Tigers being called for 10 fouls to just one for the Irish.

The Irish were 23-of-28 from the free-throw line for the game, while the Tigers were 8-of-8. Broadnax said that Tracy Rankins broke his nose and Arnold Louis needed several stitches over an eye. Chris Linton led the Tigers with 14 points.

12/23/08

Arkansas State (Elwyn McRoy) (9-3) vs. SE Missouri State (Rodney Hamilton) (3-9)

Shawn Morgan scored 16 points to lead Arkansas State to an 86-67 win over Southeast Missouri on Tuesday. DeJuan Brown added 14 points and grabbed eight rebounds. Donald Boone scored 13 points, and Brandon Ayers accumulated 11.

The win gives coach John Brady a 9-3 start, the best of any first-year head coach in school history. Arkansas State cut Southeast Missouri’s all-time series lead to 38-25.

Going into the half, ASU led by four at 43-39. he Redhawks’ Kenard Moore led all players with 24 points. Calvin Williams added 16 points and nine rebounds, and Jaycen Herring scored 14 points.

UIC (Tracy Dildy) (8-3) vs. Toledo

Spencer Stewart scored 15 and Scott VanderMeer had 12 points and 12 rebounds to carry Illinois-Chicago to a 65-55 victory over Toledo on Tuesday night. The Flames (8-3) pulled to a 17-point lead with 1:31 left in the first half and went into the break ahead 36-21.

Boyd came off the bench to score 11 points for Illinois-Chicago. Toledo outscored the Flames 22-8 off turnovers, but Illinois-Chicago had a 17-7 advantage in second-chance points and a 34-24 advantage in the paint. The Flames shot 26-of-61 from the field for 42.6 percent and the Rockets shot 23-of 60 for 38.3 percent.

Bowling

Dynasty client Norm Duke was listed as the No. 7 PBA in history by the PBA. His highlights are below, but you can check out the article at this link: http://www.pba.com/news/feature.asp?ID=1039

Career Titles: 29
Career Major Titles: 5
Career Earnings: $2,602,414

Highlights: Duke’s 29 titles rank tied for seventh all time… He owns five majors including the USBC Masters, Tournament of Champions, World Championship (twice) and U.S. Open, making him one of just two bowlers to complete the PBA’s Grand Slam and one of just five to complete the Triple Crown.

He was just 18 when he won his first title in 1983, becoming the youngest to ever win a PBA Tour title… Two-time Player of the Year (1994, 2000) and four-time George Young High Average Award winner… Also won the Harry Smith Point Leader Award in 2005-06…

Won a career-best five titles and banked $273,753 in 1994… Has won three or more titles in four different seasons… One of 19 players to shoot 300 on national TV.

With Trent Johnson at the Helm, LSU's Future Looks Bright

Dec 12, 2008

With a new coach and a load of talent, especially at the defensive end, the LSU men's basketball team's future looks pretty bright as it continues its season Saturday after a week off for exams.

Over the next month, the Tigers will be facing the toughest part of their non-conference schedule. After they play Grambling State this weekend and Nicholls State on Wednesday, LSU has their first road trip of the season, traveling to the Toyota Center to take on Texas A&M.

Also included in the schedule are Washington State on Dec. 27, at Utah on Jan. 6, and then in the middle of their SEC schedule they play Xavier on Jan. 24.

I understand that this schedule is not as impressive as some of the other schedules in the country, but Coach Johnson understands this team needs time to gel and mesh.

Speaking of Coach Johnson and the new Tigers, they really have shown a lot through the first month or so of the season. As a true LSU basketball fan, I have attended every game they have had this year.

They haven't really played any significant competition, with the exception of a decent Cal State-Fullerton team, but they are learning the new offense and adapting well.

Every game I have gone to, people have compared the new Tigers to the old Brady Tigers, and one thing that seems to be popular to talk about is the fact that they have an offensive balance this season.

Yes, they have the stand-outs like Marcus Thorton and Tazmin Mitchell on the offensive end. But for anyone who remembers last season, the Tigers NEEDED Thorton to score between 28 and 40 points a game. This season, he still does score a lot, but gets help from teammates Bo Spencer and Chris Johnson, among others.

On the defensive end, the Tigers play all man. Eerily similar to the 2006 Final Four team, they really like to block shots—up to an outstanding 16 blocks in a game earlier this season. Again, Chris Johnson leads the team on this end, and what he lacks in power and size, he makes up for in his jumping ability—much like Tyrus Thomas in 2006.

Now, am I saying that this team can make it to the Final Four? No, probably not.

But, no one thought the 2006 team would make it that far.

Can they win the SEC West? Well, that is more realistic, especially with the SEC being so weak this year. 

It is definitely a rebuilding process at LSU, but they really do have some potential to make it a very successful season and potentially even make it to the Big Dance come March.

College Basketball Betting: Perfect Teams Against The Spread: December 9th 2008

Dec 9, 2008

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We are now about a month into the 2008-09 College Basketball season, and there are still six teams that are undefeated against the spread.

Furthermore, none of these six perfect teams are big name schools, and only one is from a major conference, so the good news for bettors is that it may be a while before the oddsmakers catch up with these underrated squads. So our advice would be to follow these teams closely, and all six of them may be virtual automatic plays for now if they are in the underdog role.

Without further ado, here are the half-dozen perfect ATS teams:

Arkansas State (6-0 ATS) - The Red Wolves (formerly the Indians) come out of the Sun Belt Conference, and they are now coached by John Brady, who took LSU to the Final Four a couple of years ago. Brady has done an excellent job in his first season at Jonesboro, as the Red Wolves have gone 6-2 straight up. Most impressive is the fact that they are 3-2 SU and 5-0 ATS in true road games this season, with the two losses being covering efforts at Mississippi and Missouri State, two difficult venues for visiting teams.

Buffalo (4-0 ATS) - This is a good time to be a Buffalo Bulls supporter, what with the football team winning the MAC Championship and the basketball team off to this nice start. The hoop version has already upset Temple at home this year, but the best performance by the Bulls has ironically come in defeat, when they threw a major scare into second-ranked Connecticut before ultimately succumbing by just a 68-64 count.

Illinois State (4-0 ATS) - We always feel that Missouri Valley Conference teams are worth a long look in these early season non-conference affairs, and the Redbirds of Illinois State have been the posted child for the conference thus far. They are a perfect 8-0 straight up, including impressive road wins at Wright State and SMU. Are the Redbirds the Drake of this year? Stay tuned.

Jacksonville State (4-0 ATS) - If you like teams that fly way under the radar, then the Jacksonville State Gamecocks out of the small Ohio Valley Conference are for you. The Gamecocks have won six straight games straight up since opening the season with a covering road loss in SEC country vs. their namesakes at South Carolina. Their winnings streak has included upset wins as double-digit underdogs at both Massachusetts and Georgia State. In fact, their 4-0 ATS mark has been accumulated exclusively on the road.

Wichita State (4-0 ATS) - The Shockers are the second member of the still underrated Missouri Valley Conference on the perfect list. It should be noted however that they are also the only team on this list with a losing straight up record, at 3-4. Still, there is certainly no shame in losing by three points on the road at Texas Tech, and by eight points to Michigan State and eight points to Georgetown on neutral courts. This could be a dangerous team in the MVC, as the Shockers only figure to benefit from those early season encounters with the big boys.

Northwestern (4-0-1 ATS) - The Wildcats are the first team mentioned here that are from a major conference, and they are a lower tier Big Ten team at that. Yes, they do have a push on their record with a four point loss at Butler, but that is the only blemish on their 6-1 straight up mark. Since that loss however, the Wildcats have held DePaul to 36 points, Florida State to 59 points and UC Irvine to 43 during their current three-game winning streak.

The Real Prestige Rankings: Part II

Aug 19, 2008

Table of Contents:

Introduction and Outline

Part I

Part II

Part III

Part IV

Part V

Part VI

Part VII

Part VIII

Part IX

Part X

Part XI

This is the second part in my series of Prestige Rankings for NCAA Basketball over the past 24 years.  My rankings are a more accurate and simplistic approach to the Prestige Rankings released by ESPN several weeks ago.  Please refer to the table of contents to view other articles in the series.

Here I will unveil all of the teams in conferences rated No. 25-27, and all of the teams rated No. 41-45. 

Conferences:  (Conference Rank, Team, Points, Overall Rank, ESPN’s Overall Rank)

 

27)  America East – Average Point Total: 5.78

1) Vermont38 (T-142, 159)

2) Boston University8 (T-163, 108)

3) Albany4 (T-191, DNQ)

4) UMBC2 (T-226, T-256)

T-5) Hartford0 (T-273, 270)

T-5) Binghamton0 (T-273, DNQ)

T-5) New Hampshire0 (T-273, 297)

T-5) Stony Brook0 (T-273, DNQ)

T-5) Maine0 (T-273, T-278)

The high moment for the America East conference was No. 13 seeded Vermont’s victory over No. 4 seeded Syracuse in the 2005 NCAA Tournament.  The conference has also had several upset scares recently.  The same Vermont team played No. 2 seeded Connecticut to a very close game the year before their big upset and Albany gave No. 1 seeded the biggest scare any No. 16 seed has provided in recent memory in 2006. 

Boston University, whose four tournament appearances are spread out over the 24-year time period, is rated inexplicably high in the ESPN rankings.  Also, it is easy to see that the bottom five teams in this conference that have never qualified for the NCAA tournament make it impossible for America East to climb very high in the conference standings.

 

26)  SWAC – Average Point Total: 7.50

 

1) Southern44 (T-126, 98)

2) Mississippi Valley State8 (T-163, T-141)

3) Texas Southern7 (174, 167)

4) Jackson State6 (T-175, T-177)

T-5) Alabama State4 (T-191, T-203)

T-5) Alcorn State3 (225, T-201)

7) Prarie View A&M2 (T-226, T-292)

8) Alabama A&M1 (272, DNQ)

T-9) Arkansas Pine Bluff0 (T-273, DNQ)

T-9) Grambling State0 (T-273, T-271)

 

The lone first round victory for the SWAC came in 1993 when No. 13 seeded Southern soundly defeated No. 4 seeded Georgia Tech.  Southern University also qualified for the NCAA tournament five other times since 1985 to easily capture the top spot in this conference.

Texas Southern and Alabama A&M have both fallen victim to the NCAA play-in game in recent years, losing before qualifying for the first round.  Even though these teams have lost, after analyzing some of the other conferences it certainly seems like there are teams from even less prestigious conferences that could be placed into the play-in game instead of these teams. 

25)  Big South – Average Score:  7.63

 

1) Winthrop47 (123, 79)

T-2) Liberty4 (T-191, T-203)

T-2) Coastal Carolina4 (T-191, T-196)

T-4) UNC Asheville2 (T-226, T-183)

T-4) Radford2 (T-226, T-168)

T-4) Charleston Southern2 (T-226, T-241)

T-7) High Point0 (T-273, DNQ)

T-7) Virginia Military Institute – 0 (T-273, T-294)

The recent success of the Winthrop basketball program is what gives this conference all of its rating.  The rest of the conference is traditionally very weak.

Winthrop burst on to the scene of college basketball by easily handling No. 6 seeded Notre Dame in the 2007 tournament as a No. 11 seed.  This win was on the heels of a last second loss to No. 2 seeded Tennessee in the 2006 tournament on a last second fade-away three-pointer by Chris Lofton.  Winthrop has represented the Big South conference in the NCAA tournament in eight of the last ten seasons.

Top 50 Teams:

45) Iowa State Cyclones – Total Points:  304

 

  • 1 Elite Eight Appearance, 2 Sweet Sixteen Appearances, 12 Missed Tournaments
  •  ESPN Rank: T-57

Iowa State as a basketball program never really recovered after a devastating loss as a No. 2 seed in the first round of the 2001 NCAA tournament to No. 15 seeded Hampton.  From 1985-2001, Iowa State qualified for 11 of 17 NCAA tournaments.  They have only appeared in the eight years since.

The Cyclones’ lone Elite Eight appearance came in 2000 when they lost to eventual champion Michigan State as a No. 2 seed.

44) Auburn Tigers – Total Points:  310

  • 1 Elite Eight Appearance, 3 Sweet Sixteen Appearances, 17 Missed Tournaments
  • ESPN Rank: T-90

No team has made the most of their NCAA tournament appearances better than Auburn.  The Tigers have more missed tournaments than any other team inside the Top 50, but they have also never lost a first round game.  If not for tournament droughts from 1989 to 1998 and again from 2004 to the present, Auburn could be much higher in the rankings.

 

43) LSU Tigers – Total Points:  314

 

  • 2 Final Four Appearances, 1 Elite Eight Appearance, 1 Sweet Sixteen Appearance, 11 Missed Tournaments
  • ESPN Rank: T-40

LSU is the lowest rated team with more than one Final Four appearance in the rankings.  Seven first round exits are what moves the Tigers lower down in the rankings. 

LSU made the 1986 Final Four as a No. 11 seed, which was the highest seed to do so until George Mason tied the record in 2006.  Ironically, this was the other year that LSU made the Final Four.

 

42) Missouri Tigers – Total Points:  316

 

  • 2 Elite Eight Appearances, 1 Sweet Sixteen Appearances, 10 Missed Tournaments
  • ESPN Rank: T-37

Missouri tops the preceding two Tigers in the rankings because of their consistency.  They have been involved in 14 of the last 24 NCAA tournaments. 

Their seven first round losses are compensated for by Elite Eight appearances in 1994 and 2002.  Missouri has not qualified for the tournament since 2003.

41) Gonzaga Bulldogs – Total Points:  318

 

  • 1 Elite Eight Appearance, 3 Sweet Sixteen Appearances, 13 Missed Tournaments
  • ESPN Rank:  26

Ever since their miracle run to the Elite Eight as a No. 10 seed in 1999, the Zags have firmly established themselves as the best mid-major team in the country. 

Gonzaga had only one tournament appearance prior to 1999 (a first round loss in 1995), but they have easily qualified for the tournament every year since 1999. 

In several recent years, the Bulldogs have been popular Final Four picks, but have still yet to reach that threshold.  Gonzaga actually ranked 15th when I ranked the teams only back to the year 2000.

Open Mic: The All-Time LSU Basketball Team

Aug 10, 2008

When choosing this team, my age was a liability, as my earliest memories of LSU basketball were with guys like Anthony and Nikita Wilson, Jose Vargas, Darryl Joe, and John Williams in the early to mid '80s.  But I tried to stay true to the guys I never saw play.

The first team is hard to argue, but after that there’s room for debate.  I’d love to hear your suggestions.

Year listed denotes player’s last season.

First Team

C: Shaquille O’Neal ‘92

F: Bob Pettit ‘54

F: Rudy Macklin ‘81

G: Chris Jackson (aka Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf) ‘90

G: Pete Maravich ‘70

Second Team

F: Glen Davis ‘07

F: John Williams ‘86

F: Brandon Bass ‘05

G: Jerry Reynolds ‘85

G: Joe Dean ‘52

Third Team:

F: Stromile Swift ‘00

F: Ricky Blanton ‘89

G: Howard Carter ‘83

G: Bobby Lowther ‘48

G: Kenny Higgs ‘78

The Honorable Mention Team:

C: Collis Temple, Jr. (LSU’s first African-American player) ‘74

F: DeWayne Scales ’79 (SEC Freshman of the year ‘78, Hon. mention All-American ’79, SEC Tourney MVP ’80)

F: Clarence Caesar (Career steals leader at LSU, as well as member of 1,000 point, 500 rebound club) ‘95

G: Randy Livingston (Injury-riddled career but super talent) ‘96

G: Alvin Dark (Team was 19-5 in his two years) ‘43

The Anthony Randolph Project: Making “NBA Plays” With D-League Statistics

Jul 8, 2008

Just as quickly as the “We Believe” Nellie-Ball era began, the Warriors are seemingly forced to toss it aside and move on, with Baron Davis bolting for the Los Angeles Clippers.

However, the most important question for the Warriors is not how they will replace Baron, as some media outlets may lead you to believe.   The big question for the Warriors—who have squandered every single lottery pick this decade with the exception of Andris Biedrins—is whether they can expect all of these young players to reach the playoffs again in the post-Baron Era.

More importantly, they have to develop these individual talents into a coherent unit. And that’s only the beginning of a number of questions for the Warriors, the most important of which has to do with lottery pick Anthony Randolph:  Is Anthony Randolph ready to contribute this year, or can we expect most of his playing time to come with the D-league affiliate in Bakersfield?   It is the development of Randolph that will make this offseason (and likely the coming regular season) most interesting for me as a Warriors fan. And in reviewing the draft, he is probably one of the more intriguing stories of the first round.  After being considered a top-10 pick early on in the draft process, he ended up as a consensus No. 12 pick, according to major mock drafts on the day of the draft. He then ended up being picked No. 14 by the Warriors. Depending on who you ask, Randolph’s stock nearly “fell” out of the lottery on draft day.  Is this indicative of a larger trend in the NBA? Have GMs finally gotten sick of being burned by young unproven players?  Randolph oozes with potential as an 18 year old standing 6’ 10” and with a skill-set that has drawn comparisons to Lamar Odom and Chris Bosh.

However, some believe that his wiry frame and suspect statistics on a mediocre team made him an extremely risky pick. Some of those who believe in statistics suggest that he should have fallen even farther and is hardly even worth a first-round pick—much less a lottery pick.  So which is it? Are we being fooled by his YouTube clips, or does he have a chance to be something special? With such a wide range of opinions, how do we make a balanced judgment of Randolph?   Let's take a look at both sides of the argument -- the upside and the downside.

Randolph’s Immeasurable Ceiling: Making NBA Plays  It should not at all be surprising that Randolph was expected to go so high.  In YouTube clips and game footage alike, he looks great.  He’s runs the floor fluidly, has shown the ability to handle the ball in the open court, and actually loves blocking shots. Despite his wiry frame, he rebounds and blocks extremely well, showing no fear of contact.   His ability to play stronger than his size is indicative of a much higher basketball IQ than he’s given credit for. There are two things to keep in mind about Randolph: 1) he went through a mid-season coaching change and 2) Louisiana State rarely called plays for him or did anything to maximize his talent.   So any numbers he did put up were based almost entirely on his own instincts about when to make plays and his ability to insert himself into the rhythm of the game. That is something you rarely see from a freshman. From an SF Gate article

Mullin said that Randolph simply "makes NBA plays," which might put him slightly ahead of where Wright was at this point a year ago. 

In the moments when Randolph does have the ball, he displays an outstanding feel for the game. He seems to quickly perceive what options are available, how to take advantage of them, and where to be on the court to get it done. Any player that has attributes can earn himself playing time on an NBA roster.  Defensively, he’s an outstanding weak-side defender—though he still needs to learn how to play disciplined defense within a team concept. A quote from Hoops Addict:

An excellent weak-side defender, Randolph has the ability to alter shots in the lane, get a hand in the passing lane, or dominate the defensive boards.

The problem is his lack of defensive awareness and poor decision making. Leaving his man to get the highlight reel block, gambling for steals and some less than stellar defense in the post are a few characteristics of his that have left some to wonder whether Randolph will have trouble adapting to a quicker, more complicated defense in the NBA.

Though, with experience and practice, there’s no telling what he can do defensively. His quickness allows him to keep in front of smaller, faster forwards, while his size and presence on the wing can force teams into sloppy turnovers and bad shots.

With consistent coaching, it seems reasonable that he could learn how to use the feel for the game he displays on offense to play disciplined basketball within a team concept.  Put the physical attributes, offensive instincts, and defensive potential together and you have the makings of a star—someone who is able to influence the game on both sides of the court. That’s what made it seem like a no-brainer for the Warriors to take him.  "He does handle the ball and he makes plays that we feel are NBA plays," Mullin said. "He's a 6'10" long player, so if (opponents) play small on him, you can give him the ball and let him go over people. They play big on him, he has the ability to handle the ball, put it on the floor and get his own shot."  Unfortunately, Randolph’s college statistics don’t paint such a rosy picture of his potential.

The Concrete Floor: Randolph’s D-League College Statistics  In his most recent rookie rankings, ESPN columnist David Thorpe pretty much captures the sentiment of those who don’t believe in Randolph’s potential:

Big-time talent who has lots of players in front of him. He should destroy the D-League if he stays focused.

The easiest critique of Randolph is his weight – he weighed in at 197 at the Orlando pre-draft camp. Prior to the draft, there were some who questioned his motivation and focus, as Thorpe implied. But the strongest critique came from the statisticians.   John Hollinger from ESPN.com levied a particularly tough critique in his pre-draft ratings—Randolph was completely undraftable according to his numbers:

Seen in many quarters as a high lottery pick, Randolph has virtually nothing in his statistical record to justify such a lofty selection...It appears he's going to be drafted in the middle of the first round at worst, but even that appears to be a terrible mistake—there is no track record whatsoever of a player rated this poorly achieving pro success.

Ouch.  So what’s the problem in his statistical record? Pick your poison.  The big thing that every statistician noticed was his low field-goal percentage. The Chris Bosh comparisons don’t hold much weight once you consider Randolph’s poor shooting percentages. Ed Weiland from HoopsAnalyst tells this story well.

Anthony Randolph was not an efficient two-point scorer at LSU. Not even close. He hit .483 on two-pointers and .105 on 19 three-pointers. Not too many college stars go onto NBA greatness after hitting less than .515 on two-point FGs. In fact, no one has.

Randolph is right now a lesser version of Alan Henderson at the same age. Freshmen PFs who can’t knock down significantly more than 50 percent of their two-point shots aren’t likely to become anything more than a solid journeyman. The only All-Star in the group is (Antoine) Walker and he was more of a perimeter PF.

If you check out Weiland’s site (worth a look) and look at the group of poor shooting freshmen power forwards, it seems like a harsh critique—Chris Wilcox, Juwon Howard, and PJ Brown are the best of the bunch. Then again, Wilcox has developed into a solid contributor...on bad teams.

Hollinger and Eric Doehrr, who provided Draftexpress with a WinScore analysis of the draft, also highlighted Randolph’s high turnover rate of 3.0 turnovers per game. For all the talk of his potential to distribute the ball as a point forward, his assist to turnover ratio of .41—meaning he turns the ball over more twice as much as he makes an assist—is among the worst in the NCAA.

Ditto for his pure point rating, which is designed for point guards—but a red flag when you’re at the bottom of the country and entering the NBA draft.  Of course there are explanations for his poor ballhandling statistics. If you watch the games, you might notice that his handle can be a little loose in the open court. Occasionally when dribbling on the fast break he seems to have problems gathering the ball off the dribble and controlling it. Those awkward moments lead to bad passes—either out of bounds or creating an awkward catch for the receiver.  The turnover problem seems correctable, though it seems to be what separates Randolph from players like Lamar Odom or Tayshaun Prince—both of whom came into the league as much more mechanically refined ballhandlers. What Randolph has going for him is that his instincts for making NBA plays are advanced—his mechanics just need to catch up so that he can execute the things he wants to do more effectively.   Whether he overcomes these statistical flaws—as well as critiques about his focus—will depend on his work ethic. Of course, work ethic is something that we as fans can neither observe nor capture with statistics.

Some D-League time won't hurt.... 

In David Sparks’ graphical representation of draft prospects’ similarity to current NBA players, Randolph sort of floats in a space connected to marginal NBA talent.

In a way, it captures the difficulty of projecting Randolph's NBA effectiveness. So perhaps the best way to approach Randolph is to give him time to develop and not expect too much right away.

Randolph is a player whose stats are pretty ordinary for a prospect and showed no noticeable improvement during the season. He also has the type of athletic ability that can make a player a superstar.

I can understand a team falling for the raw talent and taking a flyer on such a player around pick No. 10-15. As long as they realize going in that this is a developmental pick who probably won’t make an impact until at least year 2 and probably later.

What I don’t understand is why any team would take such a player ahead of one who has demonstrated he’s on a par or above the best prospects of the past.

Of course, the Warriors did manage to grab sleeper Richard Hendrix with their second-round pick, who Weiland had ranked ahead of Randolph as the fifth ranked power forward. And for what it’s worth, I had Hendrix ranked as a mid-first round talent prior to the draft (not a star, but impressive rebounding ability).

So on balance, for a team that needed to improve their post play on offense and defense, the Warriors did quite well in the draft no matter what side of the Randolph debate you take, just by taking the talent that fell to them. Taking all of this into account, I see Randolph developing into an Andrei Kirilenko-type who is able to fill every category of the stat sheet. On draft night, I recall him saying that he wants rings and that he loves blocking shots. If his court intensity matches the determination within those comments, he indeed has an extremely high ceiling.

But he's not ready yet. In fact, the D-League may be the appropriate destination for Randolph in order to give him some time to refine his game and bulk up. If he participated in Warriors training camp and then went to the D-League for the regular season, adding some strength and refining his game, the Warriors may be better off in the long run.

Whether he becomes the All-Star level Kirilenko or the post-meltdown version will depend not only on his ability to put in the work, but the Warriors’ capacity to develop him along with the rest of their promising young core.

Seattle Supersonics Draft Candidates: Anthony Randolph

Jun 7, 2008


The Rundown

  • 2007-08 Season Averages: 15.6 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2.3 bpg
  • Height: 6'11", Weight: 220lbs, Position: SF/PF, Class: Freshman
  • 18 years old
  • Best Case Comparions: Rudy Gay, Tayshaun Prince
  • Worst Case Comparison: Tim Thomas

Strengths:

  • Size
  • Wingspan
  • Quickness
  • Explosiveness
  • Ballhandling

Weaknesses:

  • Strength
  • Forces a lot of moves, passes
  • Turnovers
  • Holding his ground down low
  • Three-point shot

My Take: Anthony Randolph is projected to fall anywhere from the fifth to the ninth pick in the draft.  If the Sonics drafted Randolph, he would most likely be competing with Jeff Green at the SF/PF position.  The Sonics don't have a need at the forward position, but having a talent like Randolph with an incredibly high ceiling would be reasonable rationale for drafting him.

After briefly scouting a couple of highlight videos of Randolph, I found his most amazing quality to be his ballhandling ability.  I don't know of many 6'11" basketball players that can handle the ball and go the length of the floor to create a shot for himself or a teammate.  Along with his ballhandling ability, he can grab a lot of rebounds and block a lot of shots with his freakish wingspan.

He seems like a plug-and-play type of player—coaches will be able to slot him in at the forward position in any type of offense, and he'll be able to adjust his game and thrive in a variety of systems.

He has stated that he wants to be a Chris Bosh or Tayshaun Prince kind of player.  I think he is a Tayshaun Prince type of player with Chris Bosh's height.  His left-handed shot can hit anywhere out to mid-range, but gets less accurate further from the basket.

Conclusion: Picking Anthony Randolph has Robert Swift written all over it.  It would be a tremendous mistake to pick him as the Sonics don't have a need at the forward position, and the chances are reasonably high for Randolph to be a complete bust.


Previous Candidates: Brook Lopez, Jerryd Bayless

Sources:nbadraft.net, draftexpress.com