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Breaking Down the Fallout of Rock's Stunning Pat McAfee Interview After WrestleMania

Erik Beaston
Apr 23, 2025
SmackDown

The Rock may not have had the time in his schedule to appear at WrestleMania 41, but he did make time for The Pat McAfee Show Tuesday afternoon, where he explained his absence from the big event (video includes NSFW language).

“I did feel — and I made the call, ‘I don’t want to be involved in that. Let The Final Boss step back into the shadows. Let all the spotlight go to John and Cody. Let’s not make it about Cody’s soul or John’s soul. Let’s let them do what they do,’” he claimed, despite a very clear creative decision to make it about Rhodes selling his soul and being front-and-center alongside Cena after a buzzworthy heel turn two decades in the making.

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Rock also claimed he wanted to see Cody Rhodes turn heel at some point and had developed the soul-selling narrative as part of that larger story, then took some thinly veiled shots at the creative process surrounding the WrestleMania main event between The American Nightmare and Cena.

“They had six weeks to plan for that. I loved the finish of the match. I would have finessed things a little differently on how they got there, but that’s just me creatively,” he said, in response to a main event finish critically panned.

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While it was a clear damage control attempt by a massive Hollywood star and a member of the Board of Directors at TKO, it also came across as a self-serving, pro-Rock spin on what appeared to be a tumultuous stretch of WWE Creative leading into the biggest show of the year and one that essentially threw Paul “Triple H” Levesque and his team under the bus.

It was ineffective and may have a negative impact on relations within the promotion.

What does the fallout of that explosive interview on the ESPN talk show look like for WWE moving forward? Let’s take a look.

A Final Boss Missing In Action

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Rock made it very clear when discussing the reason(s) for missing WrestleMania that one of them is commitments elsewhere that he wants to honor and uphold. WrestlePurists’ Ibou noted back in December that they included reshoots for the upcoming Moana live-action film, which would make him unavailable to compete in the show’s main event.

If that is the case, one thing that must stop at the highest levels of WWE is the reliance on The Rock to help boost ticket sales and add spice to premium live events. It disrupts creative plans and sets impossible expectations among fans that The Final Boss will factor into the story when it matters most.

We saw it at Bad Blood, when he appeared in the closing moments of the show for absolutely no reason, teasing involvement with Rhodes and Roman Reigns that never went anywhere and prevented CM Punk vs. Drew McIntyre inside Hell in a Cell from being the main event over a generic tag team match-up.

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The more that happens, the more the company sets itself up for unnecessary backlash when the Hollywood A-lister does not appear as expected, even if he was never advertised to in the first place.

His commitments elsewhere also mean the company should not rely on him to make promotional appearances, such as the one on Tuesday afternoon.

For as iconic a character as he was and as much as he may genuinely intend to help, he tends to spin things in a manner best described as self-serving. It usually makes him look good, or like the emphasis of great ideas, at the expense of everyone else, all while undermining the actual Chief Content Officer of the company.

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Speaking of which, the interview should also have an impact on how he creates stories, generates rivalries, and builds Superstars moving forward.

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Re-Examining The Game

Triple H experienced his greatest success as a booker when he did not have to account for mega celebrities popping back into the frame and becoming a factor in his stories, then waiting around for them to become available to tell the next chapter.

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Part of what made WWE as hot as it was entering last year’s Showcase of the Immortals was how he created new stars. Damian Priest, Rhea Ripley, LA Knight, Jacob Fatu, Liv Morgan, Dominik Mysterio, Jey Uso, Drew McIntyre, and Gunther all saw their stars skyrocket, thanks to concentrated booking that intertwined their stories with other, bigger stars on the roster.

Their creative plans were not at the mercy of whether Rock would be available for any given episode of Raw or SmackDown, let alone making an appearance at a premium live event.

They had clear plans and an obvious yet effective story direction, and the result was the most coherent WWE product fans had seen in a decade.

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He needs to get back to that. 

If Rock has made it clear that he has commitments elsewhere, he should not feel beholden to whatever it is he may want to pop back in and do. Book how he wants, which also meant getting as many faces in front of the audience as possible.

It was not uncommon for the 2025 Hall of Fame inductee to feature the bigger stars in backstage promos or video packages that could further their stories while ensuring Dragon Lee got on television in a match with Chad Gable that highlighted his incredible in-ring abilities.

Otis and Chad Gable had one of the best stories in WWE in 2024, and much of that can be attributed to the fact that they had television time for in-ring promos and matches, which, given the current state of the product, they likely would not have today.

Get back to creating those moments that benefit stars outside of the top handful of Superstars, tell those undercard stories that allowed someone like Gable to shine and become one of the most interesting and entertaining performers on the roster.

If Triple H cannot rekindle the magic of his first year as head of WWE Creative, it does not appear he will have The Rock to lean on when needed for the foreseeable future. If that is the case, and the product suffers, then it will be time to re-evaluate The Game.

Literally and figuratively. 

WWE's Bianca Belair Reportedly May Have Suffered Finger Injuries at WrestleMania 41

Mike Chiari
Apr 23, 2025
WrestleMania 41

Bianca Belair reportedly may have suffered an injury during her loss on Night 1 of WrestleMania 41.

According to Fightful's Sean Ross Sapp, there was some internal concern within WWE that Belair suffered an injury to "a couple of her fingers" during the Triple Threat match against Iyo Sky and Rhea Ripley.

Night 2 of WrestleMania 41 on Sunday opened with the Triple Threat for the Women's World Championship, as Sky put the title on the line against both Belair and Ripley.

In what was arguably the best match of the entire WrestleMania week in Las Vegas, Sky retained by breaking up a pinfall with her signature moonsault and pinning The EST.

On Monday night's episode of Raw, Sky celebrated her victory before getting interrupted by NXT women's champion Stephanie Vaquer, setting up an impromptu match between them.

Roxanne Perez and Giulia made surprise appearances by attacking Sky and Perez, at which point Ripley made her way to the ring to run off both Perez and Giulia.

Belair did not appear on Raw, although it is unclear if that is due to a potential injury or because plans call for her to primarily be on SmackDown moving forward.

As she has done on so many occasions, Belair once again cemented herself as one of the best women's wrestlers in the world and one of WWE's top stars in general at WrestleMania.

She has a penchant for performing her best on the Grandest Stage of Them All, and she showed no ill effects from an injury if she did indeed suffer one.

Losing Belair for any period of time would be a major hit to the WWE women's division, although there is a ton of talent waiting in the wings, particularly if plans are in place to call up both Perez and Giulia to the main roster.

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WWE Rumors on Roman Reigns, CM Punk, Becky Lynch and WrestleMania Bid by Orlando

Mike Chiari
Apr 23, 2025
WrestleMania 41

Bleacher Report catches you up on the latest news from the WWE Universe.

WWE's Reported Creative Process on Reigns, Punk at WrestleMania

Roman Reigns, CM Punk and Seth Rollins clashed in a memorable Triple Threat main event on Night 1 of WrestleMania 41 over the weekend, but the WWE creative team reportedly considered multiple ideas before deciding on that match.

According to Fightful Select (h/t Subhojeet Mukherjee of Ringside News), plans for Reigns and Punk, as well as other top stars such as Seth Rollins and Gunther were "in flux" in the months prior to WrestleMania.

Multiple different WrestleMania matches were reportedly pitched for those Superstars before deciding on the Triple Threat, as well as Gunther defending the World Heavyweight Championship against Royal Rumble winner Jey Uso.

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That report supports screenshots that have made the rounds on social media over the past couple of days from the upcoming Netflix series WWE: Unreal.

Per Steve Carrier of Ringside News, a shot of a whiteboard appeared to show multiple proposed WrestleMania matches, including Punk vs. Rollins vs. Gunther.

Instead, Punk and Rollins were moved into a Triple Threat with Reigns, and the build to that clearly kicked into high gear at Royal Rumble when all three of them brawled.

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Although WWE may not have had full conviction in the idea of Reigns vs. Punk vs. Rollins at first, it turned out to be among the best matches of the weekend.

It also featured arguably the best and most shocking moment of WrestleMania with Paul Heyman turning on both Reigns and Punk to align himself with Rollins.

On Raw, Bron Breakker was revealed as an ally of Rollins and Heyman, perhaps setting the stage for a tag team match of Reigns and Punk against Rollins and Breakker next month at Backlash.

Lynch Reportedly Masterminded Her Own WrestleMania Return

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Becky Lynch's WrestleMania 41 return and subsequent heel turn the next night on Raw was reportedly her idea.

According to Bryan Alvarez of Wrestling Observer Live (h/t WrestleTalk), Lynch came up with the plan to be Lyra Valkyria's mystery partner at WrestleMania, beating Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez for the WWE Women's Tag Team Championships, before dropping them back to Liv and Raquel the next night.

Becky reportedly also was the architect of the plan to turn heel by attacking Valkyria after the loss to Morgan and Rodriguez on Raw.

Originally, Valkyria and Bayley were supposed to challenge Morgan and Rodriguez at WrestleMania, but Bayley was taken out by a mystery attacker on WrestleMania Saturday.

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With Bayley unable to compete, Valkyria needed a partner, and her fellow Irishwoman in Lynch arrived on Night 2 of WrestleMania.

It marked the first on-screen appearance for Lynch in WWE since losing a steel cage match to Morgan on the May 27, 2024, episode of Raw.

Lynch's contract expired shortly thereafter, but she eventually re-signed, and there has been speculation for months regarding when and how she would return.

Showing up on the Grandest Stage of Them All was one of the most impactful ways possible to re-enter the fold, and following it up with a heel turn on the women's intercontinental champion suggests The Man should be a featured player in the women's division moving forward.

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Orlando Reportedly Set to Make WrestleMania Host Bid

The city of Orlando, Florida, is reportedly planning to submit a bid to host WrestleMania 47 in 2031.

According to Ryan Lynch of the Orlando Business Journal (h/t Sports Business Journal), the Orange County Commissioners voted Tuesday in favor of distributing $18 million in an effort to "draw four future events from the WWE and UFC," including WrestleMania in 2031.

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WrestleMania has twice taken place in Orlando, as WrestleMania 24 in 2008 and WrestleMania 33 in 2017 emanated from the city.

On both occasions, WrestleMania was held at Camping World Stadium, which was previously known as the Florida Citrus Bowl.

WWE is coming off a financially successful WrestleMania 41 in Las Vegas this past weekend, and next year's WrestleMania 42 will be hosted by New Orleans.

A future WrestleMania is ticketed for Indianapolis as well, although it isn't yet known when that will happen.

Given the enormity of WrestleMania and the positive economic impact it has on the host city throughout the week, it has become commonplace for prospective hosts to make their pitches to the WWE brass.

Since Orlando is a destination city that has successfully hosted WrestleMania in the past, it is likely just a matter of time before it hosts another.

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The Rock Says Travis Scott is Training with Booker T After WWE WrestleMania 41

Mike Chiari
Apr 22, 2025
WrestleMania 41

The Rock gave some insight into rapper Travis Scott potential development into a WWE Superstar on Tuesday.

During an appearance on the Pat McAfee Show (h/t Ringside News), The Rock revealed that Scott is going to start doing pro wrestling training with WWE Hall of Famer Booker T in the near future.

Scott made his first sizable impact in WWE last month at Elimination Chamber when he accompanied The Rock to the ring for his segment with Cody Rhodes.

When Rhodes refused to sell his soul to The Rock, John Cena turned heel by attacking Rhodes, and both The Rock and Scott joined in as well.

Cena challenged Rhodes for the WWE Championship in the main event of Night 2 of WrestleMania 41 on Sunday, and Scott showed up during the latter stages to provide a distraction, which helped Cena win and become a record-breaking, 17-time world champion.

While many fans seemingly expected The Rock to show up, he explained to McAfee that he thought it was best to remove himself from the storyline after Elimination Chamber and place the spotlight on Cena and Rhodes.

The Final Boss added that while he could have factored into the finish at WrestleMania, he has other projects coming up and didn't want to get involved if there was no way to pay it off.

Instead, Scott interfered, and there could be a potential payoff on the horizon if his wrestling training goes well.

Scott gave Rhodes a black eye at Elimination Chamber by punching him too hard in he face, and while Rhodes got some revenge at WrestleMania by hitting him with Cross Rhodes, Cena and Scott got the last laugh.

The Rock said during the post-show press conference at Elimination Chamber that Scott had already begun doing some pro wrestling training, and working with a legend such as Booker T could help expedite the process even more.

While The Rock noted he was surprised to see Scott play a role in the finish at WrestleMania 41, he praised the popular rapper due to his love for WWE and pro wrestling.

Doing more training could allow Scott to get even more physical and to continue having a presence in Cena's matches, although The Rock did not provide any information regarding WWE's immediate plans for Scott.

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The Rock Explains WWE WrestleMania Absence, Talks John Cena's 17th Title, Cody Rhodes

Mike Chiari
Apr 22, 2025
SmackDown

Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson explained his decision to not show up at WrestleMania 41 during an appearance on the Pat McAfee Show on Tuesday.

The Rock began by divulging that his involvement with Cody Rhodes and John Cena at Elimination Chamber last month was born from TKO CEO Ari Emanuel calling him to ask if he would make an appearance in an effort to help sell more tickets.

He agreed and played a role in the creation of the storyline that saw him ask Rhodes to sell him his soul.

Rhodes declined to do so at Elimination Chamber, prompting Cena to shockingly turn heel and attack Cody along with The Rock and rapper Travis Scott.

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The Rock said it was at that point that he called both Cena and Rhodes to tell them, "I think the Final Boss' work is done," meaning he wanted to remove himself from the storyline for the build toward WrestleMania.

He noted that he wanted to take himself out of the spotlight and place it on Cena and Rhodes since he felt the important aspect of the angle was Cena's heel turn and his pursuit of becoming a 17-time world champion.

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In the main event of Night 2 of WrestleMania 41 on Sunday, Cena beat Rhodes thanks in part to interference from Scott.

The Rock largely praised the match, including Scott and the result of Cena breaking the all-time world title reign record, although he added, "I would've finessed things a little differently," with regard to the finish itself.

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During his discussion with McAfee, The Rock admitted that his initial thought with the soul-selling angle was to plant the seeds for an eventual Rhodes heel turn and to gauge how the fans felt about it.

The Final Boss suggested that WWE could go back to that in the future, or that he himself could resurface as part of the Cena storyline at some point.

On Monday night's episode of Raw, Cena cut a strong heel promo in which he criticized the fans and reiterated his intention to retire as the last "real" world champion.

At the conclusion of the segment, Randy Orton sneaked into the ring and hit Cena with an RKO, likely setting up a title match between them next month at Backlash in Orton's hometown of St. Louis.

In the wake of The Rock explaining his departure from the storyline, there is now no question that the focus is entirely on Cena and his retirement tour as a heel over the next several months.

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